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Watching the Rangers Twins game on TV in Dallas today the Rangers announcers keep reminding me and the others watching about how the Astros gave up on Johan Santana who they consider one of if not the...

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Did they mention Santana had two average pitches and didn't progress at a decent pace through the minors? Nope? Didn't think so.

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they also left abreu unprotected, let melvin mora go, and also had magglio ordonez. every franchise lets players get through the cracks that become great players later on. i can see this turning into...

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The Marlins actually picked up Santana first and traded him to Minnesota since they obviously did not want to have to carry him for the full season on the MLB club.

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Quote:and also had magglio ordonez. Really? Where did you find this info? Baseball-Reference.com says he was signed as a FA in 91 by the White Sox.

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i read it somewhere a couple of years ago, signed him out of the venezuelan academy. gimme a little while, see if i can find it.

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Quote: i can see this turning into a bash purpura thread. get over it..-----------------------------------------------------------------------Purpura wasn't GM then.

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Quote:Players such as Tony Eusebio.How dare you, Gary. Tony Eusebio deserved to be MVP in 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004. He is the best...

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that's where the sarcasm comes from. I KNOW he wasn't GM then, but you guys would find some way to blame it on him.

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So did Lofton. So did Schilling. So did Morgan.No offense...but I'm absolutely sick of this "factoid". I've heard it a million times, and it happens. It's baseball. We've had our share of them, too....

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This isn't a bash anyone. I simply was pointing out two things: one is another great pitcher has escaped us, two is that the Rangers were talking Astros baseball. Just mentioning it since I didn't...

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Quote:How dare you, Gary. Tony Eusebio deserved to be MVP in 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004. He is the best Astro that has ever lived....

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hey i liked tony no really i did

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---one is another great pitcher has escaped us---------------------------------------------------but it is a point we have all heard before, ad nauseum. nolie, schill, rj, freddy garcia, or others...

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Don't forget Luis Gonzalez who the Astros had twice before his 57 HR year in 2001.

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Quote:Don't forget Luis Gonzalezand the only person other than sosa to have such a precipitous decline in power in the last few seasons. woulda coulda shoulda, its a part of baseball. i feel sorry for...

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Well there was no way for us to know Gonzo was going to juice

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Quote:Well there was no way for us to know Gonzo was going to juiceand there was no way to know that a kid with two mediocre pitches would develope into a cy young candidatePetition to retire JR...

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The Rangers have never let anyone of significance go.Sincerely,Sammy Sosa and Kevin Brown

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